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		<title>By: El sentido Edupunk en el Activismo Bibliotecario PARTE 2 &#171; Bibliopunk: Lectura, derechos y tecnologías</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-13847</link>
		<dc:creator>El sentido Edupunk en el Activismo Bibliotecario PARTE 2 &#171; Bibliopunk: Lectura, derechos y tecnologías</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] coincido con Stephen cuando, ante la idea de Ken Carroll de que &#8220;[los Edupunks] están tratando de politizar la discusión [sobre la tecnología [...]</description>
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		<title>By: El sentido Edupunk en el Activismo Bibliotecario PARTE 1 &#171; Bibliopunk: Lectura, derechos y tecnologías</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-13846</link>
		<dc:creator>El sentido Edupunk en el Activismo Bibliotecario PARTE 1 &#171; Bibliopunk: Lectura, derechos y tecnologías</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ken Carroll. Edupunk Need to grow up. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Punks hate hippies&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-13761</link>
		<dc:creator>Punks hate hippies&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This whole phenomenon has led someone to suggest that me and my friends are immature thugs with fascist (maybe even latent Nazi) leanings. I guess that makes us Brownhoodies. I&#8217;m reasonably sure this is the first time my work has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: El sentido Edupunk en el Activismo Bibliotecario PARTE 2 &#171; &#8220;Abatido, despreciado y maltrecho&#8221; BeNeoBeat!</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-2769</link>
		<dc:creator>El sentido Edupunk en el Activismo Bibliotecario PARTE 2 &#171; &#8220;Abatido, despreciado y maltrecho&#8221; BeNeoBeat!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] coincido con Stephen cuando, ante la idea de Ken Carroll de que &#8220;[los Edupunks] están tratando de politizar la discusión [sobre la tecnología [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Carroll &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Acting upon the theory</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-1883</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Carroll &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Acting upon the theory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the recent brouhaha it became clear to me that both DIY and edupunk can mean different things in different contexts. So [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Punks hate hippies&#8230; &#124; Networked Learner News</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>Punks hate hippies&#8230; &#124; Networked Learner News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This whole phenomenon has led someone to suggest that me and my friends are immature thugs with fascist (maybe even latent Nazi) leanings. I guess that makes us Brownhoodies. I&#8217;m reasonably sure this is the first time my work has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Carroll</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

To be clear, I maintain that teachers need to display a greater level of maturity than the studetns they teach. This includes showing restraint in political matters. This was not an insult to students as you have wrongly suggested. I see it is an ethical requirement upon the teacher to respect students and not to railroad them with political views. 

Second, I love Paolo Freire. He is the greatest educational thinker that I know of. But you have to approach him critically. Here&#039;s my general guide to him: everything Paolo Freire writes about learning is well worth considering; everything Paolo Freire writes about politics is well worth ignoring. He wrote about the farmers in Brazil 60 years ago in an age when Marxism seemed plausible, an age of  hellish, pre-Democratic S American governments. That has litle to do with today, despite what your ideology-loving confreres might suggest. It is dismaying that people cannot read Freire crtitically. He himself knew that his politics would not apply in other contexts - he made it very very clear in his writings.

I remain of the opinion that we mneed more learning and less ideology.

Ken Carroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>To be clear, I maintain that teachers need to display a greater level of maturity than the studetns they teach. This includes showing restraint in political matters. This was not an insult to students as you have wrongly suggested. I see it is an ethical requirement upon the teacher to respect students and not to railroad them with political views. </p>
<p>Second, I love Paolo Freire. He is the greatest educational thinker that I know of. But you have to approach him critically. Here&#8217;s my general guide to him: everything Paolo Freire writes about learning is well worth considering; everything Paolo Freire writes about politics is well worth ignoring. He wrote about the farmers in Brazil 60 years ago in an age when Marxism seemed plausible, an age of  hellish, pre-Democratic S American governments. That has litle to do with today, despite what your ideology-loving confreres might suggest. It is dismaying that people cannot read Freire crtitically. He himself knew that his politics would not apply in other contexts &#8211; he made it very very clear in his writings.</p>
<p>I remain of the opinion that we mneed more learning and less ideology.</p>
<p>Ken Carroll</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Best</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What is (and is not) Edupunk...&lt;/strong&gt;

I had a few words with Jim Groom over at Bavablog via the comments after following up on his Glass Bees post in which he coined the term Edupunk. We realised, via some of the more negative replies, that some......</description>
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<p>I had a few words with Jim Groom over at Bavablog via the comments after following up on his Glass Bees post in which he coined the term Edupunk. We realised, via some of the more negative replies, that some&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EduPunk: Do you fight for your right to ed-u-cate? &#124; theory.isthereason</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-1482</link>
		<dc:creator>EduPunk: Do you fight for your right to ed-u-cate? &#124; theory.isthereason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 2008: Ken Carroll says &#8220;Edupunks need to grow up&#8220;: &#8220;Am I the only one to find this Edupunk meme ridiculous? The adolescent ethos, music, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 2008: Ken Carroll says &#8220;Edupunks need to grow up&#8220;: &#8220;Am I the only one to find this Edupunk meme ridiculous? The adolescent ethos, music, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edupunk: light in the shadows</title>
		<link>http://ken-carroll.com/2008/06/01/edupunks-need-to-grow-up/#comment-1470</link>
		<dc:creator>Edupunk: light in the shadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hmm. &#171;Has EDGE&#187; I&#039;ve done little more than ponder this: I wonder if I have lost the amount of edge I once had? School can often be injurious to your education. Maybe working in a university can have a similar effect. Nothing more to say really. PS.  Not everyone likes Edu-Punks. Ken Carrell. [...]</description>
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